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Thu May 28 23:40:25 EDT 2020
- general introduction - history of plan 9, relationship to unix - where does 9front come in - appropriate attitude for using plan 9 - "What can I learn from this?" - trying to impose your comfort zone on plan 9 is a direct route to misery - run stats and start building the OS in background - whenever it finishes, take a moment to point out that it didn't take very long - then start it over, but cross-compiling for another arch - namespaces and file servers, 9p - drawterm mounts - kernel file servers - playing music with /dev/audio, flacdec, mp3dec, etc - intro to rio - three button mouse controls - terminal interface and text editing - filesystem; /dev/text, /dev/draw; corresponding man pages - topng </dev/screen >screen.png - nested rio, hold mode - intro to acme - moving around - commands, filesystem - win, mail, velour -> upas; mention morris worm - boot up process/info; termrc, cpurc - difference between terminals, cpu servers, auth servers, file servers - quick tour of the relevant startup files - plan9.ini - intro to ndb - syntax of the config file (key/value store) - using it to represent your network topology - cross-reference with startup rc files/man pages - factotum - try to avoid showing your passwords during the talk, dipshit - mothra (9front.org) - where to find information - caveats (e.g. hardware limitations); raspberry pi - how to get help without being a twat - extras if time permits - vmx - games (man nintendo) - golang (history from plan 9 -> inferno -> limbo -> go, practical demonstration of plan 9 support) - mail, httpd, dns server - imap, smtp, irc, usenet, bittorrent clients - ssh, vt(1), sshfs other ideas: - rc intro - plumber - C programming stuff - dig into the kernel a bit - https://git.sr.ht/~ft/orca
Thu May 28 23:15:00 EDT 2020
One thing I especially dislike about this website: often, instead of providing hard reasons on why they consider a piece of software “harmful”, they just give a bunch of random IRC quotes.
Thu May 28 21:47:08 EDT 2020
Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="cI6OQgnE"; dkim-atps=neutral From: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 23:08:39 +1000 To: markus schnalke <meillo@marmaro.de> Subject: Re: [TUHS] fmt(1): history, POSIX, -t, -c Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org> Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" <tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org> I looked in my manuals. Fmt(1) first appears in Research 9th edition. I have vague memories that it was written by Tom Duff, but a) I could misremember and b) I also have vague memories it was not original. If both memories are accurate, it's just a simple command written in two different places, one being a distorted echo of another. Much like the make td wrote at UofT after hearing about Stu's. Nothing nefarious. -rob On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:41 PM markus schnalke <meillo@marmaro.de> wrote: > Hoi, > > personally I use fmt(1) a lot for email formatting and such. > Typically I only use the `-w' parameter. Now someone asked me about > `-t' and `-c' of *GNU* fmt(1). I wasn't able to find good documentation > on them. The manpage only tells that they have to do with different > indentation for the first or first two lines. But what are the use > cases? How would source text for these parameters look like? > > A look into the description and rationale sections of POSIX, which > often provides helpful information, was not possible because fmt(1) > is not part of POSIX (only fold(1) is). Why's that? Is it because > fmt(1) differs so much between Unix implementations? On BSD `-c' > centers text and `-t' sets tab widths. Plan 9 has none of these > options. But still, `-w' could have been standardized. Or was the > line filling algorithm different as well? How does fold(1) fit into > the picture? > > Maybe you can answer some of these questions or give hints on where > I could find answers myself. > > > meillo >
Thu May 28 17:13:13 EDT 2020
- general introduction - history of plan 9, relationship to unix - where does 9front come in - appropriate attitude for using plan 9 - "What can I learn from this?" - trying to impose your comfort zone on plan 9 is a direct route to misery - run stats and start building the OS in background - whenever it finishes, take a moment to point out that it didn't take very long - then start it over, but cross-compiling for another arch - namespaces and file servers, 9p - drawterm mounts - kernel file servers - playing music with /dev/audio, flacdec, mp3dec, etc - intro to rio - three button mouse controls - terminal interface and text editing - filesystem; /dev/text, /dev/draw; corresponding man pages - topng </dev/screen >screen.png - intro to acme - moving around - commands - win, mail, velour - boot up process/info; termrc, cpurc - difference between terminals, cpu servers, auth servers, file servers - quick tour of the relevant startup files - plan9.ini - intro to ndb - syntax of the config file (key/value store) - using it to represent your network topology - cross-reference with startup rc files/man pages - factotum - try to avoid showing your passwords during the talk, dipshit - mothra (9front.org) - where to find information - caveats (e.g. hardware limitations); raspberry pi - how to get help without being a twat - extras if time permits - vmx - games (man nintendo) - golang (history from plan 9 -> inferno -> limbo -> go, practical demonstration of plan 9 support) - mail, httpd, dns server - imap, smtp, irc, usenet, bittorrent clients - ssh, vt(1), sshfs other ideas: - rc intro - C programming stuff
Thu May 28 00:53:29 EDT 2020
Ok boomer 😂👌
Tue May 26 23:44:50 EDT 2020
fixed?
Tue May 26 15:41:11 EDT 2020
hello
Tue May 26 10:29:46 EDT 2020
term% iostats rdoom
DOOM Shareware Startup v1.10
V_Init: allocate screens.
M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults.
default file: /usr/glenda/lib/doom/cfg
Z_Init: Init zone memory allocation daemon.
W_Init: Init WADfiles.
adding /usr/glenda/lib/doom/doom1.wad
===========================================================================
Shareware!
===========================================================================
M_Init: Init miscellaneous info.
R_Init: Init DOOM refresh daemon - [..
InitTextures
InitFlats........
InitSprites
InitColormaps
R_InitData
R_InitPlanes
R_InitLightTables
R_InitSkyMap
R_InitTranslationsTables
P_Init: Init Playloop state.
I_Init: Setting up machine state.
I_InitSound: disabling sound: /dev/audio does not exist
D_CheckNetGame: Checking network game status.
PORTME i_net.c I_InitNetwork (use 9P)
startskill 2 deathmatch: 0 startmap: 1 startepisode: 1
player 1 of 1 (1 nodes)
S_Init: Setting up sound.
S_Init: default sfx volume 9
HU_Init: Setting up heads up display.
ST_Init: Init status bar.
Demo is from a different game version!
VERSION=110 demover=109
read 3004118 bytes, 5.57625 Kb/sec
write 122813878 bytes, 10214.4 Kb/sec
protocol 126672360 bytes, 94255.6 Kb/sec
rpc 24901 count
Message Count Low High Time Averg T R
version 1 0 0 0 0 ms 19 19 bytes
attach 1 0 0 0 0 ms 25 20 bytes
flush 2 2 2 2 1 ms 18 7 bytes
walk 560 0 1 151 0 ms 15933 17494 bytes
open 75 0 2 43 0 ms 900 1800 bytes
read 5315 0 63398 526107 98 ms 122245 3062570 bytes
write 18516 0 1722 11741 0 ms 123239746 203676 bytes
clunk 429 0 2 135 0 ms 4719 3003 bytes
stat 2 0 0 0 0 ms 22 144 bytes
Opens Reads (bytes) Writes (bytes) File
1 0 0 0 0 stdin
1 0 0 1058 1058 stdout
1 0 0 4 150 stderr
2 3 110 0 0 /bin/rdoom
6 29 90319 0 0 /bin/rc
6 12 4314 0 0 /rc/lib/rcmain
2 3 895 0 0 /bin/rimport
4 10 3712 0 0 /bin/rconnect
5 12 25360 0 0 /bin/echo
2 42 161584 0 0 /bin/tlsclient
2 2 66 2 43 /net/cs
1 1 1 1 26 /net/tcp/clone
1 7 415 11 1084 /net/tcp/0/data
2 32 1628 32 823 /mnt/factotum/rpc
4 2113 16904 0 0 /dev/bintime
2 22 88 0 0 /dev/random
1 0 0 1 21 /proc/591/args
4 7 11104 0 0 /bin/cat
2 9 22542 0 0 /bin/wc
2 6 13024 0 0 /bin/rm
1 10 33624 0 0 /bin/read
2 16 54167 0 0 /bin/sed
1 21 77796 0 0 /bin/aan
1 1 1 1 26 /net/tcp/clone
1 2162 1990344 1903 53366 /net/tcp/1/data
1 1 5 0 0 /net/tcp/1/local
1 1 19 0 0 /net/tcp/1/remote
1 0 0 1 22 /proc/623/args
1 4 9912 0 0 /bin/mount
1 110 445552 0 0 /bin/games/doom
1 2 288 0 0 /dev/draw/new
1 0 0 15453 122756809 /dev/draw/8/data
1 0 0 0 0 /dev/draw/8/refresh
1 3 8320 0 0 /lib/font/bit/vga/unicode.font
3 1 6 2 10 /dev/label
1 1 10 0 0 /dev/winname
1 17 60 0 0 /dev/kbd
1 652 31948 44 352 /dev/mouse
1 0 0 1 72 /dev/cursor
1 0 0 1 8 /proc/649/note
1 0 0 1 8 /proc/651/note
Mon May 25 22:04:44 EDT 2020
/proc/4645730/text:amd64 plan 9 executable /sys/lib/acid/port /sys/lib/acid/amd64 acid: hash_string_fnv(len=0x7fffffffa974)+0x27 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/utils/hashtable.c:74 hash_get(key=0x800000008,ht=0xb5bb28)+0x34 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/utils/hashtable.c:347 key_length=0x0 e=0xb5b748 messages_get_ctx(ctx=0xb5bb28,key=0x800000008)+0x27 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/utils/messages.c:162 messages_get()+0x16 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/utils/messages.c:243 browser_window__handle_error(event=0x7fffffffaac8,bw=0xb5b5b8,c=0x1a1aa00)+0x117 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/desktop/browser_window.c:1278 message=0x800000008 code=0x800000000 url=0xcabba8 browser_window_callback(event=0x7fffffffaac8,c=0x1a1aa00,pw=0xb5b5b8)+0x120 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/desktop/browser_window.c:1397 bw=0xb5b5b8 res=0xb5b5b800000000 rect=0xca4f20 match=0x10 thread=0x81730e width=0x10 height=0x1000000000 hlcache_llcache_callback(event=0x7fffffffab38,pw=0xccf768)+0x3fc /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/content/hlcache.c:540 ctx=0xccf768 effective_type=0x0 hlevent=0xc00000005 error=0x0 llcache_progress()+0x70 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/content/webfs.c:561 handle=0xcd0b38 ev=0x4 wh=0x200000002 update_webfs()+0x3e /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/content/webfs.c:607 next=0x196fc48 wh=0x1a1a578 schedule_run()+0x44 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/frontends/plan9/schedule.c:64 tmp=0x19695d8 drawui_run()+0x52 /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/frontends/plan9/gui.c:140 timer=0x7fff00000004 ev=0x7fff0000000a main(argc=0x2,argv=0x7fffffffef68)+0x1fe /usr/ori/src/nsport/netsurf/frontends/plan9/gui.c:454 plan9_table=0xa018c0 sb=0x1416d1e9a4d18 _main+0x6d /sys/src/ape/lib/ap/amd64/main9.s:32
Mon May 25 15:07:53 EDT 2020
ep1.0 enabled control rw speed high maxpkt 64 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 0 port 0 rootport 0 addr 0 busy roothub csp 0x000009 ports 3 ehci ep2.0 enabled control rw speed high maxpkt 64 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 0 port 0 rootport 0 addr 0 busy roothub csp 0x000009 ports 3 ehci ep3.0 enabled control rw speed high maxpkt 64 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 0 port 0 rootport 0 addr 0 busy roothub csp 0x000009 ports 4 xhci ep4.0 enabled control rw speed super maxpkt 512 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 0 port 0 rootport 0 addr 0 busy roothub csp 0x000009 ports 4 xhci ep5.0 enabled control rw speed high maxpkt 64 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 0 port 1 rootport 1 addr 5 busy hub csp 0x010009 ports 8 none <nil> ehci ep6.0 enabled control rw speed low maxpkt 8 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 5 port 1 rootport 1 addr 6 busy hid csp 0x010103 vid 0x046d did 0xc31c Logitech 'USB Keyboard' e6bc5 ehci ep6.1 enabled interrupt r speed low maxpkt 8 ntds 1 pollival 10 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 5 port 1 rootport 1 addr 6 busy ep6.2 enabled interrupt r speed low maxpkt 4 ntds 1 pollival 255 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 5 port 1 rootport 1 addr 6 busy ep7.0 enabled control rw speed high maxpkt 64 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 0 port 1 rootport 1 addr 7 busy hub csp 0x010009 ports 6 none <nil> ehci ep8.0 enabled control rw speed high maxpkt 64 ntds 1 pollival 0 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 7 port 5 rootport 1 addr 8 busy storage csp 0x500608 vid 0x0951 did 0x16a5 Kingston 'HyperX Fury 3.0' 71df1 ehci ep8.1 enabled bulk r speed high maxpkt 512 ntds 1 pollival 1 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 7 port 5 rootport 1 addr 8 busy ep8.2 enabled bulk w speed high maxpkt 512 ntds 1 pollival 1 samplesz 0 hz 0 uframes 0 hub 7 port 5 rootport 1 addr 8 busy